-- --russ (nelson@clutx [.bitnet | .clarkson.edu]) Russ.Nelson@$315.268.6667 In Communism's central planning, citizens are told "you will make widgets". In Capitalism's advertising, citizens are told "you will buy widgets". -- --russ (nelson@clutx [.bitnet | .clarkson.edu]) To surrender is to remain in the hands of barbarians for the rest of my life. 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