Was Pennsylvania a pacifist state?
Date: Thu, 7 May 92 22:12:57 EST
- From: pmetzger@shearson.com
Unless you can show me evidence of a functioning pacifist society
ever in real existence on the face of the earth, I will not believe
either in their existence or in their capacity to function.
- From: Robert J Leone
Well, there's the Amish here in PA, but that just proves your
point: the only reason they survive is that they're surrounded by a
society that is willing to protect people who will not protect
themselves.
Pennsylvania was started by Quakers and run as a religious state by
pacifists. The death of this pacifist state happened nonviolently by
their acceptance of non-pacifist settlers.
- From: pmetzger@shearson.com
It wasn't a pacifist state; it was a pacifist region protected by the
crown of Great Britain. Thus, this doesn't count.
Well, you said "pacifist society", and I supplied one. If you can change
the rules of discussion, I can't win.
As far as I know, such protection was not wanted and was never called
upon. You may counter "but it was there". If you do that, then we
have nothing more to discuss, because I can never prove that some
group will not step in and defend pacifists violently.
In fact, following such a worldview, there is no such thing as nonviolent
action, because then, all nonviolence is backed up by potential violence.
Russell Nelson
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